Tape 003 - Clip 2
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More Tara Interview and a lunch meeting
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Its funny at one point was here at like three oclock in the morning and had just
called my buddy in Paris at the Paris Netscape office and he gave me hard time for
being there he said what are you doing said Im finishing up my bug list and he goes all
right fine go to bed you know check my bug list about 10 minutes later and he had
logged bug in the bug database that said go home and play with your dogs and he put
picture of the dogs in the bug database Still sitting there as far as know
tL
How is the de-bugging process going
For as far as reducing the bug count Laughs It went up We were on our way down
wed gone from about 130 to about 60 something and now were up above 100 again
and uh the bug database is arguing with me it wont generate the same list for me as its
generating for Michael Toy we havent figured out why that is yet so anyway
Are you feeling pressure
Well yeah because our target bug count for today was 20 and were several orders of
magnitude above that It will probably go down drastically during the day because people
are scrambling trying to reduce their bug counts but its still not going to be 20 by the end
of the day So the likelihood of that pushing out next Fridays engineering deadline on 3-
13 is very high so our job becomes minimizing the damages that that may cause so that
we dont miss 3-31
Whats the biggest possible problem
Its generic getting everything covered getting all the security calls yanked getting Java
extracted getting all the sanitization efforts completed urn were on target for all the front
end code the back end code is still underway Urn just all the details Jim Roskind one
of his favorite things to say is ftL.1 IJSJT and its really true Were talking
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Tape Tara Hemandez Build Pit Car lunch wI group describing tree
about million 1/2 million lines of code and everyone of them has to be gone over
carefully and in some cases twice thats lot of man hours invested in that
Code isnt necessarily inherently unstable Our code tends to be just cause its so big and t4f
weve written it so fast Urn really stable well established product wouldnt have this
problem Of course really stable well established product probably wouldnt release its
source code anyway laughs
Lunch conversation mostly unintelligible
Lemonade How about root beer You have five fridges full of drinks you cant find
anything laughs
All right so tell me about this 4.5 thing You delivered code yesterday
Yeah
Full speed
Yeah
Navigator only and communicator
OK dont retract that thats good thing -A
admit we had couple false starts but we got it done finally Like we ran out of
disk space but the automation kept running anyway..
OK so the next road is going to be UNiX
Automation. .where did it break
OK right now your stuff is still quarantined. .the automation is quarantined
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Tape Tara Hernandez Build Pit Car lunch wI group describing tree
Build Tree
Theres some mechanism eventually where like OK the first round builds itself to 10 and
number of builds fails so the automation...we have to test the information
called my buddy in Paris at the Paris Netscape office and he gave me hard time for
being there he said what are you doing said Im finishing up my bug list and he goes all
right fine go to bed you know check my bug list about 10 minutes later and he had
logged bug in the bug database that said go home and play with your dogs and he put
picture of the dogs in the bug database Still sitting there as far as know
tL
How is the de-bugging process going
For as far as reducing the bug count Laughs It went up We were on our way down
wed gone from about 130 to about 60 something and now were up above 100 again
and uh the bug database is arguing with me it wont generate the same list for me as its
generating for Michael Toy we havent figured out why that is yet so anyway
Are you feeling pressure
Well yeah because our target bug count for today was 20 and were several orders of
magnitude above that It will probably go down drastically during the day because people
are scrambling trying to reduce their bug counts but its still not going to be 20 by the end
of the day So the likelihood of that pushing out next Fridays engineering deadline on 3-
13 is very high so our job becomes minimizing the damages that that may cause so that
we dont miss 3-31
Whats the biggest possible problem
Its generic getting everything covered getting all the security calls yanked getting Java
extracted getting all the sanitization efforts completed urn were on target for all the front
end code the back end code is still underway Urn just all the details Jim Roskind one
of his favorite things to say is ftL.1 IJSJT and its really true Were talking
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Netscape Documentary
Tape Tara Hemandez Build Pit Car lunch wI group describing tree
about million 1/2 million lines of code and everyone of them has to be gone over
carefully and in some cases twice thats lot of man hours invested in that
Code isnt necessarily inherently unstable Our code tends to be just cause its so big and t4f
weve written it so fast Urn really stable well established product wouldnt have this
problem Of course really stable well established product probably wouldnt release its
source code anyway laughs
Lunch conversation mostly unintelligible
Lemonade How about root beer You have five fridges full of drinks you cant find
anything laughs
All right so tell me about this 4.5 thing You delivered code yesterday
Yeah
Full speed
Yeah
Navigator only and communicator
OK dont retract that thats good thing -A
admit we had couple false starts but we got it done finally Like we ran out of
disk space but the automation kept running anyway..
OK so the next road is going to be UNiX
Automation. .where did it break
OK right now your stuff is still quarantined. .the automation is quarantined
\\
Page
Netscape Documentary
Tape Tara Hernandez Build Pit Car lunch wI group describing tree
Build Tree
Theres some mechanism eventually where like OK the first round builds itself to 10 and
number of builds fails so the automation...we have to test the information
